Alex Sherman is a Media Reporter at CNBC.
Ray Wong is the deputy editor of reviews & guides at Inverse. Ray covers consumer technology including product reviews and investigating AI technology, with the aim to uncover the larger story. You can also follow him on Twitter and LinkedIn.
During the episode, Ray talks about exclusives he writes related to products and people, why he prefers to work with sources he already knows, how you can model your pitch off an existing article he’s written, and more.
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[00:05:35] BB: I admire the discipline here. Quite unique. Quite unique. Okay. What is a subject line then that works for you?
[00:05:43] RW: Yeah. In my area of expertise, I'm Deputy Editor at Reviews and Guides at Inverse. I cover up consumer tech and we do a lot of reviews. We do a lot of guides. That means we work with a lot of PR agencies and brands on receiving products on loan for review. For me, it's just about cutting through noise and making sure that you get PR or brands get an opportunity to even like, for me to even like, take a look at their emails.
I guess in the subject line, because I work in the area of reviews and guides, just putting review or review units in the subject line can make a big difference. It's a matter of seeing it or not seeing it.
Seeing it or deleting it. I also like to write a lot of exclusives on products and people, the people behind the products.
[00:06:31] BB: Yeah.
[00:06:32] RW: Including exclusive inside of it, inside the subject line is really helpful. Then obviously we all attend and I personally attend a lot of events. So just put an upfront invite and what the details are, short description of what the details are, instead of having to go into the email, click it, open it, then like look through a wall of text and find what you're trying to tell me.
[00:06:55] BB: Yeah.
[00:06:55] RW: Just tell me upfront is really important.
[00:06:58] BB: Tell you upfront, be direct. Sounds like you definitely prefer the most direct succinct subject line.
[00:07:03] RW: Yeah. I mean, if it's like for example, a demo to say you're having a demo an event, just tell me that you're inviting me to an event. Like, let's not play games and let's not like be, try to be too cute with the subject line. You only get one chance and when I'm just pawing my way through my inbox with five fingers.
[00:07:22] BB: You got to pass the five fingers.
[00:07:24] RW: You got to pass the five-finger test.
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[00:14:28] BB: You mentioned a little earlier, Ray, with exclusives. Oh, if I have a relationship with you and that helps and so forth. Let's say, I don't have a relationship with you. I've never met you. How does one begin to build one with you?
[00:14:42] RW: Yeah. Like I said, definitely reaching out and with the understanding that you've done your homework, show that you've done your homework, you know what stories I've written before. I get a lot of emails where it says, “Hey, I saw that you wrote this and about this and this.” I'm like, “I've never written about that in my life.”
[00:14:58] BB: No. Wait.
[00:15:00] RW: I absolutely did not publish that story.
[00:15:02] BB: Oh, what a bomb. Oh, no.
[00:15:05] RW: It's just so obvious. This is a copy-paste job.
[00:15:08] BB: Oh, it's a copy-paste. Oh, God. Yeah.
[00:15:10] RW: It's a copy-paste job and it's just the email blast and it just frustrates and disappoints me so much. I'm just like, well, that's a person that I'll probably will either never email again or their emails go straight to the trash, because you really didn't do the homework, right? To build that relationship, all you need to do is, I'm not saying to stock a journalist, that some journalists find that a little creepy.
I personally like it when a PR person or brand rep has seen the type of projects I've done, the types of stories I've done, even if it's from a competitor, and say, “Hey, look I saw what you did here. We have an opportunity to give you access to XYZ designer or engineer or product manager or leader. We think that you would be a great fit to tell our story.” Then it goes from there, right? Obviously, there are no promises, but that's a good way to start a conversation when you show that you're familiar with my work and the type of content I'm interested in making and you're not wasting my time.
[00:18:04] BB: Video or phone interview?
[00:19:04] BB: Bullet points or long pitches?
[00:19:32] BB: Short or long pitches.
[00:22:16] BB: How about images attached or Dropbox zip file?
[00:22:22] BB: Pitches in the morning or at night or it doesn't matter?
[00:22:42] BB: Email or Twitter DM?
[00:23:02] BB: One follow-up or multiple?
[00:23:41] BB: Direct or creative subject lines?
[00:23:49] BB: Then press release, or media kit?
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